Episode Transcript
Hello. My name is Aziz and I'm the son of a divorced mother. She's really my superhero.
That's why it's important for me to support women, to share their uniqueness, their personalities,
perspectives, and emotions about life. Too many women in this world feel alone. They
worry about the judgment of others,
and they struggle with their mental health,
but when they listen to the Rare Girls podcast
where empowered women share their voices
and tell their stories, many women will feel inspired
to live a life of freedom
and to overcome all their insecurities.
They will feel it is a safe space
to find their confidence, to remember their unique beauty
and to feel their self-worth and they will connect with the sisterhood of rare girls who
encourage their success and support their dreams. That's what this podcast is all about.
My guest today is Tina Dewberry. Tina is a self-worth coach and rapid transformational
therapy aka RTT practitioner based in Perth, Western Australia as a mother of three sons
With her youngest son having been born with a physical disability, Spina Bifida, 25 years ago Tina had to navigate all the heartache and difficulties that come with that.
As a consequence of that, she experienced her own physical and mental health issues.
Trying to find ways to cope and heal from these challenges, Tina began her own journey in self-development and personal growth.
Her exploration into this field began with the work of Louise Hay and Shakti Gawain.
Training as a workshop leader in Louise Hay's Heal Your Life seminars,
she then built on these teachings further with Patricia Crane PhD,
discovering the power of positive affirmation.
At a later turning point, her strong desire to expand her understanding of the mind,
body and spirit connection deepened as she continued to work with DNA
activation and recalibration specialist Brigitte Gloria, entrepreneur, speaker
and meditation master Tom Cronin and award-winning UK therapist Marisa
Peer, extending her work into transformational therapy, incorporating
hypnotherapy. These learnings, along with her background as a passionate
educator motivated her to share the power of these and to have a greater impact on
people's lives. Her experience and work of transformational therapy which
includes mindfulness, meditation, hypnotherapy, cognitive behavioral
therapy, CBT, and NLP, neuro-linguistic programming, has helped numerous
individuals discover their self-worth and then use that to transform into
greater versions of themselves, which brings her to where she is now, a transformational
life coach that embodies the elevation of self-worth and live in one's own truth.
Tina, how are you today?
Hi, Aziz.
I'm very well today.
Thank you very much.
And thank you so much for inviting me to be a part of this amazing podcast.
I'm honored.
I'm lucky.
I'm privileged and so happy to have you here.
and just to know even more about you because the whole podcast is about women's self-worth.
It's such an important topic, especially it seems the more we go further in time,
the more the years pass, the deeper and deeper that people's mental health issues get.
For you as someone who could have been doing anything in this world,
Why did you choose to become a self-worth coach in particular?
What, within your story, which we shared pieces of it,
made you decide that this is the most important purpose you can have right now?
And tell me more about your perspective.
So I think I've always had an innate interest in healing and helping others.
And a lot of that obviously stemmed from my own journey
as we touched on in the introduction
and trying to find ways to navigate,
I guess, the challenges that were in front of me.
And a lot of it came back down to really loving myself
and healing my own inner wounds, as we call them.
and part of loving yourself and a massive part of that is really understanding and validating
and recognizing one's self-worth. With all the clients that I've worked with and all the work
that I've done, self-worth really is the underpinning core of all the self-words,
self-confidence, self-esteem, self-compassion, self-love, self-care.
So really understanding one's self-worth is the vital ingredient of everything.
And I think from that point on, helping people to really recognize and understand
that in themselves really enables them to be able to elevate themselves and live their
and live their own tree.
And I think that it just sort of evolved that way
and it's just become my absolute passion.
And I really feel that it is my soul's purpose
on this planet to help heal, not just with particularly,
I mean, I work particularly with women,
but I also, you know, work with other clients as well.
So I think that's, yeah, certainly I found that,
that that's been my my mission and my purpose. I love this we're going to have so much fun today
and just to define terms let's begin with self-love what is to you the meaning of self-love
because for some people they have this conception that self-love means you become like a hippie who
just has no reason to move forward because you love yourself so much and they think
wrongly or not, whatever it is, that how can I be pushed and motivated forward without the pain
and the self-criticism and all that? Because I notice a lot of people are addicted to their
limitations and they, although they suffer from them, there is a part of them that thinks
they're necessary for them to evolve and progress. So can you share a bit more?
Yeah. So really, first of all, let me define really what self-worth really is. So self-worth
is a feeling that you're a good person that deserves to be treated with respect.
And it's a really deep understanding that you are someone of value and that you're lovable and
to life. So, as I said, that's kind of like the foundation of everything. So then the self-love
is sort of the step on from that is that to be able to acknowledge and recognize that we have
to take care of ourselves and giving ourselves, you know, recognizing what our hurts have been,
what our wounds are. But the key to it is not staying stuck in that and not letting,
allowing that to identify who we are.
That is just a part of our journey.
And it's a part of our healing
is to be able to acknowledge that.
Or we might say, some people will say like,
you know, our shadow side, our darker sides
is to be able to see those, validate those,
acknowledge them, heal them and work on them.
And then it allows us to bring in more space
of the positivity and the nurturing
and the nourishing and the healing aspect of things.
So the other part of it as well is that in our society
that we are conditioned to think sometimes
that not to put ourselves first,
that we have to think of others first.
And there is a balance that's required
because you can't serve or be of help
or take care of anyone else unless you do look after yourself. So you've got to, you know,
it's about filling that cup first and letting the overflow be what helps and serves others.
So for some people, they may need an extended period of time and healing and processes
to work on that because, you know, depending on what they happened in their childhood or what
had growing up, you know, they may have had misfortune of not having any of that or much
of that at all. And there requires a lot of that own self-nurturing and self-care and self-love to
be able to bring them back to a, you know, a balance and to a place where they then can give
from that place. Thank you. And that sounds to me that it will affect all the relationships
that people have, especially their intimate ones where if they don't feel worthy, they will repulse
and reject people who see them as good because they cannot accept compliments and might attract
toxic people into their lives who confirm for them that they are worthless, which is wrong.
And then it creates a cycle of repeatedly dating or being friends even with people who have a
of bullying towards you and in some level there is like a confirmation of your worldview that if
you're not worth it then you should be treated in a way that makes you confirms to you that you're
not. Is this something you notice whether for yourself or for some of your clients? What was
some of the resistance to them changing it? Maybe they say why would they change then maybe
a man or woman or whatever who's toxic to me but I love them then maybe they won't love me if I change
any of those struggles related to this point. Absolutely and this is a you know a common theme
I guess in in people that find themselves in you know toxic on unhealthy relationships
and it is that you know it is that understanding that you know you can only love someone as much
you love yourself. And that you also energetically and vibrationally that you would draw the law of
attraction. You know, you would draw into your life, you know, the level of energy that you
are actually, you know, vibrating from. And so sometimes as well, people will find, you know,
through their emotional wounding, so to speak, that they will be in relationships because there
a sense there is an actual subconscious sense a level of familiarity. So unfortunately if someone
has experienced abuse you know in their familial relationships growing up there is this pattern
that they unconsciously are repeating and so they're seeking out that in their relationships
whether it's you know their female and often this will come back down to the relationships
their primary relationships that they have, you know, with their caregivers,
whether their mother or father, or the significant male or female in the
relationships. And this then can play out, you know, throughout their life,
you know, as they go forward. And this is where I guess the RTT
certainly has a significant role to play in that because it is all about
finding the root cause of whatever the issue may be, whether it's a
emotional, physical, you know, psychological issue that's happening, there's a root cause
to that and that often and pretty much always will stem back to something that has happened
in their childhood, whether as I said, whether it's a significant carer or parent or someone
in their life where they've had some kind of event that then they create this belief
and from that belief then we have what we call is a looping thought. So the thought creates a
feeling and then the feeling then creates an action or a behavior and then when this loop
continues it just reinforces itself and reinforces itself and until we can interrupt that you know
pattern that cycle and reinstall it with some new beliefs people will find themselves you know
repeating the same patterns and having the same sort of themes within relationships, and
that can continue.
And so it's really about breaking the cycle, as I said, having a circuit breaker and reprogramming
whatever those beliefs are for that person, whatever limiting beliefs that that person
may have.
Thank you.
And you're someone who has experimented with and also became an expert in various
modalities of healing, of helping self-worth.
Why did you choose to focus on RTT more than any others?
Why not, for example, become an MLP master practitioner
or any of the others?
What was the difference or the superiority or the affinity?
Maybe it's a personal choice or a personal alignment.
And what is it for the people who don't know,
what is RTT?
So, look, over the years, in my own journey, in, you know, working through my own mental
health issues and physical issues, you know, I certainly did do lots of different therapies
and tried lots of different things.
And I really think it was just, I happened to just come across Marisa Peer's work through
Mine Valley, actually.
And I was actually doing some study,
doing some other courses through there.
And I saw her being interviewed
and it just really fascinated me.
And it was also during a period of time
where I was going through some difficulties myself
and she was offering a master class in RTT.
And I was just intrigued about it.
As I said, I had seen some interviews of hers
and some YouTube clips and I was just fascinated by it.
And so I experienced an RTT session for myself
and was absolutely blown away with just the insight
that had come in such a short space of time
and in just one session.
And it was done over Zoom as well,
with Marissa being in London and me being in Australia,
but how the insights and the power that I received
from just that one session really was very,
very significant.
And I think really put me on this trajectory,
like it kind of like super, super seated me
on this trajectory that I feel that I'm on now.
And I think just having had
that own personal experience was testimony
to the power of it.
And the more that I, obviously I studied it
and learnt about it and spoke to other practitioners
and just seen it for myself in clients,
really just validated again, just the power of it.
So rapid transformational therapy, RTT.
So it's a pioneering therapy in which was developed
by Marisa Pia, who is a UK therapist.
And it's based on the best principles of neuroscience,
hypnotherapy, psychotherapy, CBT.
And it really offers a very fast and effective
and often permanent and long lasting results,
which I think by comparison to other therapies,
traditional modes of therapy is what makes it
so incredible and so extraordinary
because it delivers results, permanent
or very long lasting results really, really quickly.
So for most ailments or issues that people have,
we would say that they would maybe only need between one and three sessions versus conventional
therapy. Because what it does is, as we were talking about, when you go into this deep state
of hypnosis and you're working with the subconscious mind, it's really powerful because
95% of the time we're working at the conscious mind and we're working at that level of our
stored and being held. And when we go into hypnosis, and we take the client into this,
and it's just a very natural relaxed state, it's not like I'm going to make you dance like a chicken
or anything like that. It's just taking you into a very, very deep, relaxed state. And we're
accessing the alpha brainwaves. And in that state, people, as I said, are able to tap into
that subconscious. And it reveals a lot of things that for many, many people, they
surprising that they haven't even thought of for many, many years, but allows us to get to the root
cause of the issue. And when we do that, we are then able to, as I said, we are able to uncover
and reveal what that is. We then do some other works and there's some other techniques involved
in the session where we do some inner child work and do some healing and then we reprogram
and reinstall with the new limiting beliefs.
And at the end of the session though,
your practitioner or therapist will create
a personalized audio, which you listen to for 21 days.
And that is also a really important part
of the therapy as well,
that listening to that repetition
and that's the reprogramming and the reinstallation
for a series of weeks
really helps to kind of concrete into the new beliefs.
And Marissa and a lot of the therapists and practitioners
have had great success all over the world.
Marissa Peer has worked with top celebrities
and elite performance athletes
and celebrities from all over the world.
And the RTT has won numerous awards as well
because of just the power and the, you know,
breakthroughs that it can give its clients.
Thank you.
I really love this.
And also I want to comment
and get your opinion on something.
Nowadays we live in an age of social media
where too many women,
even though they're working on themselves,
maybe trying to heal their past traumas,
every day they get some level of retraumatization
when they're seeing women who are photoshopped or even now AI-generated that look better than
any human being could because they are not real, that's not the real photo. Still, it
affects their subconscious because they keep on seeing those photos, comparing themselves
to that and feeling inferior. What is your advice to those women? And did you deal
with that? Do you know people who dealt with that? What's your perspective on this?
especially when it comes to the younger teenage generation of women
who doesn't know any different than that?
Yes, it is a prolific issue, really
across our whole society, really now.
Fortunately, in my time, going back quite a long time ago,
we didn't have those issues of social media or the internet to be
constantly comparing ourselves and it's very difficult when young people are being
bombarded from everywhere they look, they can't get away from it. So it is a very distorted
um view of um image and um certainly even beauty and what you know what is deemed beauty and there
becomes this distorted perception of of what is accepted as as beautiful um me personally myself
um I was very late to the party with social media um and it was really just with my work
that I really understood that I needed to get on board with it.
But I certainly don't watch any TV.
I'm very, very selective about things that I read.
I don't buy magazines.
It's very, very difficult. I guess really,
know, this is where environment is very, very important. And for people to, you know, especially
for young girls, you know, they're very impressionable. And as I said, you know,
it's very difficult when it is everywhere in our society to be able to extract yourself from it.
And I think we're all to some degree guilty of buying into this. But I think it's just,
you know, looking at who are your role models,
but why are they your role models?
And, you know, really trying to understand about,
you know, what is it about, you know,
this person that you potentially are aspiring to?
And, you know, going back to the concept of self-worth,
you know, what people use to measure their self-worth
are often external factors.
So, whether it be appearance or their net worth, how much money they earn, their income,
their material possessions, their social circle, who they know, who they're connected with,
what you do for your career or what you achieve.
These are all external things about people being validated.
So the whole point with self-worth is it's all about internal, it's about you measuring
against what you value yourself.
And I guess really what I would suggest to young people, young women, or young men
as well is just to take some time to just remove yourself.
And I was listening to a podcast today about loneliness versus solitude.
And, you know, in our society, once again, you know, we have this idea, this conditioning that
all to be alone or lonely is a negative thing. Now, I think it's all about the intention because
solitude is about being on your own, but it's about harnessing and really embracing, having
that space around yourself to really go internally and reflect and think about things deeply
for yourself. And I think that's a really important exercise to do. And I would often,
when I have my workshops, my sisterhood circles is that's something that I encourage people to
do is just to take that time and really think about, okay, what is it that's important to
them? What do you truly value? All things aside, all influence aside, family, schools,
businesses, organizations, media, what do you truly, truly value? And I think sometimes just
posing those questions and asking and inquiring and being willing to explore by being in a safe
space. And I think this is what I try to do for my clients, you know, either one-on-one
or in my workshop is just to create a space where they can explore that with no judgment
and explore that truly and really feel in your heart of hearts what is important to you,
what is it that you value and to use that more as your guide rather than being caught up by the
external media or press or TV or social media. But I do recognise it's a very challenging and
world that we live in. But I would just advise, take some time out, even if it's once a week,
half an hour a week. Go into nature, go for a walk and just spend some time reflecting and asking
yourself those questions. What is it that you really want in your life? What is it that you
really value? What is it that you really feel is important? What is beauty to you?
And I think most people will have people around them
that love them for who they are as a human,
as a person, and that they connect on a deeper level.
And they're the people that you wanna be talking to.
They're the people you wanna be spending time with
and having those influences
and those people in your environment.
Thank you so much, Tina.
I love this.
And if people want to learn more,
maybe follow you, learn more about your work.
What are some of the best places for them to go to?
And of course, I'll make sure to link your Instagram
in the description of the episode, et cetera.
Yeah, so as you said, they can follow me on my Instagram
and then I also Facebook Tina Dewberry Self-Worth Coach
and RTT Practitioner.
They also can just get on my website,
which is www.TinaDubryCoach.com and find out more about me and the services that I provide
and how I can maybe help support them on their own healing journey and how I can help them to
elevate their own self-worth so they can live in their truth and be the greatest version
of themselves. So happy to connect in any way and they can just send me a DM and yeah,
would love to connect with people.
Thank you, Tina, for being part of this project,
for sharing your valuable work,
for sharing parts of your story,
and I'm sure there is so much more even depth.
I wish you all the success.
Keep going, you're helping a lot of people
and have a fantastic and glorious continuation
to your growing, your impact in every way.
Thank you, Aziz.
And I just want to say congratulations to you
and thank you so much for the work that you were doing
to showcase women from all over the world
and giving them a platform to share their stories
and their insights and their wisdom.
It truly is a gift and I think we're all very blessed
for you and your leadership and your wisdom
to be able to bring that to the world.
Yeah, it's very much needed at this time
and I'm very very grateful and thank you for having me here today. You are very very welcome.