Episode Transcript
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 0:08
femininity is powerful in all its forms exceptional women, rare girls must be appreciated in every way for their perspectives, actions, thoughts, and their unique ways of being such rare girls are inspiring. And this is what this podcast is all about. Hello, my name is Aziz and my guest today is Veronica Kononenko. Veronica is a student of journalism at Yvonne Franco National University of Aviv in Ukraine. She works in journalism, and she is also very interested in web design, because that job can give her the freedom and opportunity to travel more, she has many hobbies, including singing, learning to play the guitar, and going to the gym. Veronica, how are you today?
Unknown Speaker 1:04
Hello, I am great. Thank you. I really happy to participate here today. So thank you for this opportunity.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 1:15
It is my honor. It is my privilege. And I'm really curious about you. So if your friends were to describe your personality, who is Weronika? What would they say about you?
Unknown Speaker 1:28
Oh, I think they say that I'm a kind person and also active person, inviting person. So I'm always ready to participate in something new and they just go girl. I like that. Okay,
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 1:53
so you like to try new things? Oh, you I remember clearly, you want to learn web design so that you can travel more? is traveling something interesting for you tell me about your interest in traveling?
Unknown Speaker 2:07
Yep, actually, I want to travel a lot. Because it's given me independence. It's get my corazones more white. You know, it's a new people. It's new excite excitement. And I was really, really heavily to travel all around the world some day. But I need money. And I need a job. With that. I really can
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 2:48
job. Yes, I do. Understand. And then Are you a girl who loves new emotions? You get bored easily. You like to try new things and keep life always exciting.
Unknown Speaker 3:01
Yes, I seem okay. Ivan girl.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 3:04
It seems to me that you're a girl who loves new emotions, new experiences, maybe you get bored very easily. Is this correct? Are you always aiming to be entertained, and you don't like to stay in one place? And in one situation? Otherwise, it's boring.
Unknown Speaker 3:22
I think that I'm a person who want to development. I want to, to live my life the best. So I know. Life is wild to life. It's so interesting. It's so many people.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 3:42
I love that and I will ask you then do you like usually people who are always adventurous they always develop in life people who are not staying in one place. They're involved in many projects and always growing as a person. Do you see the like in their eyes, a lot of passion and those are the people who you love the most or are you do you like people who are not so much like that so that they can give you relax and no stress?
Unknown Speaker 4:12
I love old people. Because personality can be different and can bring in my life something new something his own, you know? Something really magic.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 4:28
Okay, then I will ask you a difficult question. Okay. Let's say you are in the same place, but you always meet new people from all over the world. Or you can travel everywhere in the world, but you always meet the same people. Which one would be more interesting for you?
Unknown Speaker 4:48
Oh, that's interesting. I even don't know maybe the travel, travel around the world and meet the same people because So when I will travel, I already will be faced something you, you in building culture, you know, even the people will be with the same characteristics in general. It's be interesting, because it's been your place.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 5:20
I like that and are you then someone who can feel a lot of emotions from nature from different places from the buildings, you're always influenced by the atmosphere of the place?
Unknown Speaker 5:34
I love. Really, I love atmosphere, places. Because it's given me inspiration in my life. It's given me it's, it's given me power to move on and, and develop myself.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 5:52
You spoke about development a lot. What does it mean for you to develop yourself? How do people develop in the best way? In your opinion,
Unknown Speaker 6:03
they develop and for me, it's make sure that I am, I am, okay, move on. I'm not stopping in the same place. But I understand that. Staying on this one point in my life, it's okay. For from time to time. I assume development is something new. It's a new experience. It's new people. It's new knowledge that make me more confident and more successful. You know, it's about professional life.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 6:47
I like that. And can you please share a little bit about your daily routine? What do you do in the morning? How do you try to maintain your emotional health? The gym? Wha How did you start it? How does it feel? The web design tell me your daily routine and why it's interesting for you.
Unknown Speaker 7:08
Okay, so I'm wake up this morning, I try and wake up really early, like 7am or 8am. So, the next I go to make my breakfast. So it's a ritual, that's my breakfast, like, reach out. I always do to coffee for myself, and someone really taste because my morning should be should be interesting. And they still do give me a bobber to to leave this day. Okay. So the next I go to my work, I worked online media. So it's like, five hours of my day it's work, then I you're doing some meal to myself? And do do some sports, or some hobbies. Or I started learning web design on YouTube. Yes, it's not every day, because I not have not not enough time to study every day. You know, because I have some emotional problems from the start bar. In my country. I have bulimia and oedipa. I don't know how it translate to English. So and I tried to to manage this as So I hear. Once week, once of the week, I hear go to psychologies and we talked about my mental health. And that's really, really good for me. I feel myself ruined better than I was when it was about, I don't know, month to month ago. Yes. So then I go to my boyfriend and we just trained to spend time with each other as much as possible, because very soon I will be In Wave, I should go to study. So we're just doing some romance stuff. No, it's about a dinner Dinner. It's about play on the game or singing together. Yes, that's interesting. I think my life is beautiful. I hear right now, I think that I'm trying to renovate renovation. myself. I tried to do real life. Yeah. Come come alive again. Because of our it was really awful to me. It was really scared. And it's Mike was my emotional life. Ms. Also, I'm, I'm the head of the charity department of my faculty. So now I'm working on the book outshone. We try and raise money for the niche needs of the army. Yes, that's, that's charity activities in my life.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 11:14
Thank you. Yes, that must have been so hard. And it really caused you like you said, bulimia and a lot of emotional trouble. So can you tell me about February 24? How did you hear about the war? What did you do? How did you feel? Where were you tell me everything about that day and that story?
Unknown Speaker 11:38
Okay, that's interesting. So, give me a second for remember everything. Okay? I'm woke up to five in the morning from the call of my boyfriend's mother, who is actually new to nurse. So that's how I found out that the farm started. I I'm admittedly started to prepare. I don't even know actually for what the only things I knew the plan plans of the Russian army were to take the capital of Ukraine keep and chew coffee in the city where I drink from and where I was in that moment is very close to keep. So I started preparing for the worst. I got warm clothes. Prepare which shelters got Jim it was a mess. My family My family started around running and buying food deserve was really house. Also remember that my dad was in military service in 2015. So he went to the military comes to Riyadh and even say goodbye to me. And I remember how I cried and they don't understand what they should do. What will be it was really scared. Yes. The day. It is a day was I was in the day. I was from great shock and stress.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 13:44
I understand yes. It's a really horrible situation and what encouraged you to stay in Ukraine? Did you go outside like to Poland or another place? Do you have friends who did? What is your thoughts about that?
Unknown Speaker 14:02
Actually, I go to Poland with my mom and brother. Little Brother. It was about often 10 March. So I aleenta here in Poland in Varsha three months and I broke up maybe it was my boyfriend and I was crying every day. I I always dream. Leave someone, someone you place. You know. I dreamed about traveling. But in that moment I I can't enjoy it. I just cried in my bathroom every day and I worked and they cried. I wrote about Bucha and about girls who was raped and I cried over. So this was awful time of my life. That's why I here I made zero make decision to return to Ukraine and in my home or even during the work bar, I feel myself better.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 15:27
Thank you and you said you have been for months now going to the psychiatrist, psychotherapist. Did it helps you understand some things about yourself that you didn't think about before?
Unknown Speaker 15:41
Yes. psychologies give me a lot of insights about me about my life about my relationship with my mother. Yes, because I am when I go to Varsa work versal I go with my mother and I you should leave this hurt again. And I think this boosts one reason why I was so stressed. Yes, I'm realized, sir. Really, really more about myself a lot about myself. And I'm happy that charities exist. Yes. Because in modern world, people can can get lost in in his mind, into your mind. And another thoughts another path. Leave someone's life, not yours, not own life. So it's what happens to me. I hear wanted to do what sounds wants to do. Not what I want to do.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 16:57
I understand 100% Thank you, Veronica. I wish you safety. I wish you independence. I wish you have the ability to feel peace and the ability to heal in every way and all I can say yes. Laval Carini.
Unknown Speaker 17:16
Hello, Slava. Thank you so much. You're doing a great job. Thank you again.
Abdulaziz M Alhamdan 17:22
You're welcome. And thank you. Thank you so much, and goodbye.
